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the fiscal cliff has all americans worried. after meeting with president obama this week with his fellow governors, my next guest says a failure to reach a solution would send his state into a recession. joining me now is utah governor gary herbert, a member of the national governors association executive committee. governor, welcome. >> thank you. it's an honor to be with you. >> i'm so glad you're here. i want to get your thoughts from inside the room there in person. did president obama make the case for his plan differently than he's been making it publicly? >> well, i think he knew that we were a bipartisan group. we had republicans and democrat governors there. did not expect us to come out and support one plan or the other, which we said going in we would not do. but we were grateful that he actually asked for our advice and our input. states and governors too often have been ignored, have been kind of an afterthought. and frankly we think that if congress and washington would look to the states and the governors they would develop better policy. so we were honored to be there to
and obama are still there. there are times the though even this week that it will get frustrated and stop talking to each other. i'm not sure if they're talking today or taking the day off. obama said yesterday that this could get done in about a week. i think he might be right. republicans see the writing on the wall when it comes to tax increases. what they're interested in now is making sure they get spending cuts to go along with the tax increases. when obama put his additional offer, he said $1.60 trillion in tax increases and we will delay the spending cuts until next year. that was the initial offer. republicans want to make sure that the spending cuts go up and become more immediate. considering that obama has been open to spending cuts in previous negotiations and says he is open to it now and republicans have changed from where they were a year ago when it comes to tax increases, i think it will not take too much to get their, although there are still obstacles. host: the $1.60 trillion and $800 billion are the opening numbers. where are we with those numbers now. have those num
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